在这个由Claude-Code驱动的新世界里，我选择坚持使用Obsidian作为笔记应用（多年前痛苦地从Evernote迁移过来）得到了证明。我看到朋友们试图安装Notion的MCP，并继续支付Notion的订阅，或者Roam的MCP，后者在导航他们的Roam图谱时表现得很糟糕，而使用Obsidian则根本不需要任何插件、API或MCP。毕竟，Obsidian只是一个充满markdown文件的代码库，你可以让Claude Code在其中自由发挥——文件系统就是API，纯文本就是格式。

Steph Ango (@kepano) is a designer, entrepreneur, and the CEO of Obsidian. In this episode, we discussed his journey from creating Winamp skins to leading Obsidian, and the fundamental patterns and inclinations that drive everything he explores and makes. We discussed Obsidian on multiple different dimensions, his deluxe chocolate chip cookie recipe, his exploration through furniture design, and his default inclination to push “too far” into anything he is exploring. Steph Ango demo'd the design process of several furniture projects he’s been working on at home as well as a custom piano learning app he created to teach himself music theory. This is a conversation about craftsmanship, pursuing a deep understanding, and what that reveals about who we are. The Other Stuff is hosted by @internetvin — filmmaker, entrepreneur, and possibly the most curious man on Earth. Produced by New. The Other Stuff #28 — Kepano: The Interconnectedness of Everything — Timestamps 00:03:55 Origin of Kepano 00:10:34 Relationship with Computers 00:15:25 Online Communities & Video Games 00:30:47 Winamp Skins 00:40:04 Uniformity in Design 00:51:05 Obsidian 00:59:20 Bidirectional Linking, And The Relationship Between Everything 01:23:18 Obsidian Sync, Publish, and Bases 01:32:06 Why File Over App 01:43:15 The Deluxe Chocolate Chip Cookie Taste Test 01:49:48 Living Fully 02:09:50 Early Project Walkthrough 02:19:03 Furniture Design Walkthrough 02:49:00 Constraint and Patterns 02:58:47 Kepiano 03:13:00 The Future of AI and Startups 03:31:10 Closing